2011 Factory Stock Rules? https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/t1375 Runboard| 2011 Factory Stock Rules? en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:45:23 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:45:23 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13193,from=rss#post13193https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13193,from=rss#post13193quote:DaveDudek wrote: As far as cars running at the top, the L88 Vette`s get to add compression from where their at and anything with a Hemi has to lower the compression from the NHRA number. Makes perfect sense. You can't be serious...since when did the NHRA's compression number for a Hemi suddently become relevant ? nondisclosed_email@example.com (chevy454)Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:56:27 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13192,from=rss#post13192https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13192,from=rss#post13192quote:DaveDudek wrote: quote:Ed Cook wrote: What cars does the new rules help? Just curious! As far as cars running at the top, the L88 Vette`s get to add compression from where their at and anything with a Hemi has to lower the compression from the NHRA number. Makes perfect sense. you sure Dave ?? It looks to me like the 69 L88 loses .2 allowable....nondisclosed_email@example.com (Donny Brass)Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:07:12 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13190,from=rss#post13190https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13190,from=rss#post13190And a 428 Cobra Jet is legal with what compression?nondisclosed_email@example.com (FAST LANE)Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:24:16 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13188,from=rss#post13188https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13188,from=rss#post13188quote:Ed Cook wrote: What cars does the new rules help? Just curious! As far as cars running at the top, the L88 Vette`s get to add compression from where their at and anything with a Hemi has to lower the compression from the NHRA number. Makes perfect sense. nondisclosed_email@example.com (DaveDudek)Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:21:08 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13184,from=rss#post13184https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13184,from=rss#post13184There already seems to be alot of rules, adding new rules going to help??? Don't doo much good if there not followed or ENFORCED. nondisclosed_email@example.com (GreenLS6)Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:27:49 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13133,from=rss#post13133https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13133,from=rss#post13133Can't say I disagree with any of the above! Seems to me it's been made a lot more difficult than it needs to be...but what do I know.nondisclosed_email@example.com (chevy454)Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:22:22 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13073,from=rss#post13073https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13073,from=rss#post13073What cars does the new rules help? Just curious!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Ed Cook)Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:36:02 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13067,from=rss#post13067https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13067,from=rss#post13067I'm with Jimnondisclosed_email@example.com (TomCannon)Sat, 09 Oct 2010 23:18:06 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13065,from=rss#post13065https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13065,from=rss#post13065  nondisclosed_email@example.com (Ls6racer)Sat, 09 Oct 2010 18:09:17 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13064,from=rss#post13064https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13064,from=rss#post13064Dave, why does F.A.S.T. have to follow a rule that allows high compression pistons and 1.5 c.r. over advertised compression in "pure(?) stock"? You guys have six races a year and they have only one. How many of those "fish" attend F.A.S.T.'s Factory Stock races except for the one in their back yard? A '68 Pontiac RA II has 10.75 advertised c.r. and 1.5 over would raise the c.r. to 12.25 to 1. The maximum attainable c.r. for a '68 RA II built to AMA (or NHRA) specs with a .070 overbore and legal flat top pistons with (4) valve reliefs is 11.65 to 1. The new rule would allow domed pistons to increase the c.r. another .6 points for this engine! And they call this "pure stock"? Wyane is absolutely right, .5 c.r. over advertised would be a more reasonable limit for a blueprinted "pure stock". Why not put it to a vote (isn't this the American way)?nondisclosed_email@example.com (JIM MINO)Sat, 09 Oct 2010 10:00:24 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13060,from=rss#post13060https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13060,from=rss#post13060here we GO AGAIN. :30 are the F.A.S.T. F/S rules going to be amended to mirror the PSMCDR rules? nondisclosed_email@example.com (Ls6racer)Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:32:30 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13059,from=rss#post13059https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13059,from=rss#post13059For once I agree with Mr Cannon and Jim Mino , why so much and why any piston?? You just took out all chances of keeping them under control.  They had there chance to change it to what they wanted and caved IN AGAIN ! Ohh well show up and have fun- just stop calling them Pure Stock- nondisclosed_email@example.com (GreenLS6)Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:19:05 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13056,from=rss#post13056https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13056,from=rss#post13056And whats so "pure" about that?nondisclosed_email@example.com (TomCannon)Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:12:30 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13047,from=rss#post13047https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13047,from=rss#post13047From what I have been told, there is not a lot of difference from 1.5 over adv. compression and what NHRA legal compression is. There are going to be a few cars that it will hurt like the Hemis and RA 4 Pontiacs but will allow more compression for 6 bbl cars and even my little 350 ho. The main difference is how you can get there like Jim said (different pistons instead of cutting up heads or thinner head gaskets). Jodynondisclosed_email@example.com (threefidee)Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:12:07 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13043,from=rss#post13043https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13043,from=rss#post13043We almost have to follow the PSMCDR rules, were looking to attract the same fish. I agree the NHRA deal was already set in stone and would have been very easy to keep. Is that the only rule chance for 2011? How's a guy suppose to build a car for this? Where can we get the new rules? nondisclosed_email@example.com (DaveDudek)Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:58:03 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13008,from=rss#post13008https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13008,from=rss#post13008I myself can't see spending money on something that isn't NHRA legal. Doesn't seem to make any sense to me .nondisclosed_email@example.com (TomCannon)Wed, 06 Oct 2010 19:08:23 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13006,from=rss#post13006https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p13006,from=rss#post13006I agree Jim,1.5 over stock seems like alot to me.Whats wrong with running advertised compression?Maybe a .5 over for blueprinting.Just a thought.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Wayne Nelson)Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:45:56 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p12997,from=rss#post12997https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p12997,from=rss#post12997I just read the new PSMCDR rule changes for 2011. The new rules allow a so-called "pure stock" with flat top pistons to run a high compression domed racing piston with thinner than stock rings and a compression ratio 1.5 points over advertised compression! I wonder, who does this new rule accomodate? The current F.A.S.T. Factory Stock rule states: "PISTONS MUST BE OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN FOR THE YEAR AND HORSEPOWER CLAIMED. REPLACEMENT FORGED PISTONS ARE ALLOWED AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT INCREASE COMPRESSION". In my opinion, I see no reason to change this rule as it reflects what a legitimate "Factory Stock" should comply to. In fact, I would like to see the F.A.S.T. tech form sign-off sheet list what type of piston is used and the actual compression ratio. A compression ratio of .5 (or even 1 point) over advertised compression would be more realistic what can be attained with stock-type pistons and normal "blueprinting". Jim Minonondisclosed_email@example.com (JIM MINO)Wed, 06 Oct 2010 12:56:07 +0000 Re: 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p12800,from=rss#post12800https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p12800,from=rss#post12800There was an amendment handed out for the current rules that will be in effect for 2011. Hopefully it will be posted on the Pure Stock Drags website soon, but they are really slow on updates. Basic rules here: http://purestockdrags.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=53 New engine rules are in place for 2011, so if you have questions now, you may want to email them for a copy.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Dave Watt)Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:29:20 +0000 2011 Factory Stock Rules?https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p12796,from=rss#post12796https://bfastracingmessageboard.runboard.com/p12796,from=rss#post12796Will these rule be the same as the new PSMCDR rules? Thanks.nondisclosed_email@example.com (ragtop71)Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:44:24 +0000